Comedic Relief - Ep.1

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Get what we can get. [00:00:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:00:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Just naturally. Yeah. [00:00:03] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, I feel. I feel I'm so happy I changed my. So I used to have, like, this really awkward chair, and now I'm sitting in one of those kush ass chairs and it's 10 times better. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Oh, you got to be comfortable when you record. [00:00:14] Speaker C: Yeah, dude, I know. That is bimbo. [00:00:17] Speaker A: I know. [00:00:18] Speaker C: Bimbo, my brother. [00:00:19] Speaker B: It is so good to see. It has been so long. [00:00:25] Speaker C: What's up, dude? What's up, man? [00:00:28] Speaker B: Just got back to the crib now. About to put in some degenerate parlays on Underdog. We'll see. [00:00:33] Speaker C: Attaboy, dude. At first it didn't look like a beanie. I thought you grew your hair out that much. I thought you were rocking 100%. [00:00:42] Speaker B: My hair is wild right now. When I take the beanie off, it's like, flattened by the beanie. But normally it's been, like, lately, like a high top. So it's just like. Just goes like, straight up normally. [00:00:51] Speaker C: I love it. [00:00:52] Speaker B: So I'm just. I'm. I'm getting my hair twisted on, like, Sunday. So I've just been wearing hats and beanies most of the times because it's out of control. [00:01:01] Speaker A: I dig it. Where are you, Ben? Where you at, bro? [00:01:03] Speaker B: I'm at my house in Austin. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Oh, you're in Austin. When you called me, you weren't in Austin. You were in Florida. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I was. I. I do work for music festivals, so I just travel around to music festivals all across the country. So we did EDC in Orlando, and then the weekend after, we did Warp tour in Orlando, dude. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:24] Speaker C: Ben's the only dude I know that, like, he's like, wherever you live, you spend the least amount of time there. Am I wrong? [00:01:35] Speaker B: No. I do love a trip. I do love a travel trip. I am out here trying to go as many places as possible. But, yeah, it's like, oh, I went to the Magic game in Orlando when I was out there, and I've never watched a buzzer beater happen in real life, but I was sitting like 10 rows up, and the game was tied at 112 with, like a second, like, less than two seconds remaining. And. And the Magic got the ball into Desmond Bain right in front of me. I'm watching the inbound. I'll send you the clip because I recorded the video. And he hits the game winner, like, right in my face, bro. It was sick. I was, like, cheering, like, I'm a Magic fan. I'm like, yeah, we did it, and I'm like, I don't give a. About the magic, but it was this. It was dope. Like, live games, my favorite. [00:02:21] Speaker C: You're just a fan of hoops, man. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I just. I like to just. That's my thing now. I just travel around to random cities and just. I'll be there for, like, a night just to go to a game. I'll fly into a city, go to a game, hang out for a night, and fly back the next day. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Dude. It must suck to live in Austin, though. You ain't. You guys have a. In Austin? [00:02:39] Speaker B: No. [00:02:39] Speaker A: You got college football. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't give a. About that, but I've been to a couple of San Antonio games, and that's like an hour away. And. [00:02:47] Speaker C: Dude, what is. What is. What does he look like in. In real life? Is it out of control? [00:02:53] Speaker B: I haven't seen Wemby play in real life yet. When I was watching me wasn't. I went maybe last year, a year or two ago. So he wasn't there yet, or he wasn't playing when I went to see him because I think he was out that whole time or something. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Gotcha. [00:03:05] Speaker B: But I want to go see Wemby live, so when he gets back, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna go to a Dallas game here soon and then a Houston game as well. But I want to catch Wemby because that dude. Because I've seen Giannis play in real Life. I've seen LeBron play. I saw Kobe play. I saw Steph Curry. I've seen, like, a lot of dudes play, but Wemby just. Dude's an alien. So I'm gonna go get. I'll be like 10, 15 rows up watching that dude just slap me from the court. Good work, Ben. [00:03:33] Speaker A: How tall is he? He's like 7 4. [00:03:35] Speaker B: They listen at 7 4, but Boba Marjanovic is 7 4. He's like, I'm a legit 7 4. And he's like. I was looking up at Wemby. They said he. Rumors are that he's grew. So now they're listening to 75, but their estimates are close to 7677. [00:03:49] Speaker C: What do you mean, he can dribble and shoot? [00:03:52] Speaker B: What do you mean, he grew? He's like, 20, bro. He's a kid. He's a child. [00:03:55] Speaker A: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. [00:03:57] Speaker B: Wimby, he's like, 20, bro. Barely 20. He's like a child. [00:04:01] Speaker C: He's a baby. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Yeah, he's A monster. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Wild. Wild. [00:04:07] Speaker B: It feels like, like he doesn't. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I am denouncing the French as my people officially on this podcast, so don't. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Add me to that, dude. [00:04:27] Speaker A: So, Ben, you're. You're officially a part of the rebrand of the show. Dude, we're changing the show completely, so. [00:04:32] Speaker C: Really? [00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah, we're. This is now going to be a comedy podcast. And no more serious, because I can't. I can't do it, dude. I'm not smart enough for this. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Quinn, I hate to break it to you, but no one. They're all full of all of them, bro. I listened to one of those podcasts with one of those like people that were talk. I listened for like five minutes. I'm like, this woman's full of. They're just all out here. I will, bro. Straight up though, I will tell you. So, so for the work I do now, like the company I work for, they're partly owned by Live Nation, like, bottom out. So I still work for this company, but they're owned by Live Nation. And like probably about a year ago, I was working with like the cfo, CEO of Live Nation. And he's this like older gentleman. He's. He's pretty cool, laid back. And we got to chopping it up, it was just me and him and I was like, what would you tell like your 35 year old self? He's like a 35. He's like, I didn't even know what I really wanted to do yet. I was kind of just like wandering through life. And he's like, so. He's like, so you don't have to have everything figured out. He's just like, just kind of figure out what you want to do and do that. But he's like, but most importantly, man, he's like, no matter what, somebody's like, everyone that you think has it all figured out, they have nothing figured out. They're all full of. They're all just hoping somebody doesn't call them out. And if they try to tell you, they gotta figure it out, they're full of. And they don't know. And those were his words, not mine. Like this dude that's been around all these. I mean, because we work in an industry where it's like stories of people are like, these guys are the guys that sign the checks for Jay Z and Drake, you know what I'm saying? Like, these are the guys that sign their checks and he's the one telling me they're all full of shit. Nobody has a Clue. They're all just trying. They're all just doing their best, trying to figure it out, hoping no one calls them out on their. But if they tell you they got it all figured out and they know what you should do, they're forced this quick. [00:06:26] Speaker C: So, dude, they wake up peeing poop just like us, and then they start. [00:06:31] Speaker B: And then they start talking out of their mouth less than the pee and poop. Like, they're just all talking. That's. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah, the pro. The problem became when I was listening to myself and I was like, you're full of. Like, what are you talking about? That's when I was like, dude, you're not. This is not you, bro. You need to quit that nonsense. [00:06:51] Speaker B: No, man. That's the thing is, like, you just. Yeah, everyone's just out here, bro, in this comedy space. Everyone podcasts. Everyone does it. And the comedy space is like, these people are trying to be funny, writing out bits, and I'm like, you're full of too. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Like. [00:07:05] Speaker B: But it is kind of a weird space in podcasting now where, like, the comedians are being taken seriously on podcasts. Like, Theo Vaughn is interviewing the President Trump, and we're like, yeah, like, what the is this? And I'm like. And somehow Theo Vaughn is the smart one on the podcast. You know, like, trouble out here. [00:07:28] Speaker C: We're six minutes in, and shots are fired already. [00:07:35] Speaker B: I don't think saying Trump isn't the smartest guy in the room. I don't think that's some sort of crazy stretch. I don't think I'm saying something we all know. [00:07:42] Speaker C: Hell no. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Hell no, bro. Hold on. Let me see if I can clear this up a little bit. That worked. [00:07:50] Speaker C: That worked really well. [00:08:00] Speaker B: You. You call me down queen. I do not like this. [00:08:04] Speaker C: Sheets. If you rock that accent for the whole time, dude, it's so believable, bro. [00:08:12] Speaker B: You got it down. You got it down. When I was in Orlando the other week, I went to Disneyland or Disney World or whatever the is down there. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:22] Speaker B: I don't know, bro. It's all the same. [00:08:23] Speaker C: Disney World. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, Disney World. And I'm hanging out with one of my friends, and anytime we started talking to people, like, in line, waiting for a drink or snack or whatever, because they're doing this, like, food of the World tour, and I would just start talking to people in this accent, and I found that when I. When I use the accent, it's like I take on a whole different, like, mentality. Like, I'm. And I could do it for a while, and My boy was trying so hard not to laugh because I can say the most ridiculous in that accent, and. And no one gets mad when you talk in an accent. Like, if I went up to a girl and be like, girl, I would let you fart in my mouth. They'd be like, oh, my God. But if I was like, beach, you can fart in my mouth right now. That shit would just be funny. Like, it just is never. You can get away with anything in an accent. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Oh, shit, dude. So how long you been doing the music festival thing? That. That seems pretty new, right? [00:09:17] Speaker B: Well, I started with ACL back in, like, when I first moved to Austin. So that was, like, 21. I did my first ACL, and then, like, in 22, I probably did, like, what's ACL? More festivals. ACL? Austin City Limits. The music festival out here. [00:09:33] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's like a. It's one of the biggest in the country, so it's pretty massive. And then, like, the next year, I started doing a couple more. I did, like, EDC the next year in Vegas, and then a few more Bonnaroo and Tennessee and so on. And now I'm up to, like. I think I've did, like, 13 this year, so, like, Coachella, Lollapalooza in Chicago, bonnaroo in Tennessee, D.C. so now I'm up to, like, doing that. But it's kind of cool because the, like, I work individual contracts, so if I want to do the contract, I do. If I don't, then I don't. [00:10:07] Speaker A: What are you doing exactly? Like, what's your job? Are you a roadie? [00:10:11] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know. I don't do a lot of the stage stuff. So we work with the. So our department is artist relations department. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:18] Speaker B: So we essentially do, like, depending on what I'm. Like, each festival is a little bit different, but usually I'm either, like, a liaison for the artist. So, like, once they get to the festival site, they find their green room and, like, go get their drinks or do whatever. Or, like. Or, like, I'll move them from, like, their green room to the stage or pick them up or carry, like. Or, like, we'll load up all their, like, gear and stuff and take it. [00:10:40] Speaker C: Escort all the honeys to their room. [00:10:44] Speaker B: That's after the show. But for when I work. When I work acl, I. I work with the partners, like, the owners of acl. And I swear, I'm just a. I'm a chauffeur for hoes. A hofer. I literally spend my Time just going back and forth, picking up hoes. Like, I'm like, here, bro. I'm bringing hoes bands backstage and stuff. I'm like, no, we gotta send these hose this way. These hoes go this way. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Are you. [00:11:18] Speaker C: Are you, like, interacting with artists and stuff? [00:11:20] Speaker B: Some of them, yeah. I mean, that's cool, man. That's. [00:11:22] Speaker A: You know. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Do you remember Kill Switch Engage? [00:11:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, of course. I still listen to them. I still listen to their old jams. [00:11:28] Speaker C: Workout music, baby. [00:11:29] Speaker B: I just met them in Orlando at edc. I mean, at edc, at Warp Tour. So I worked with them. So, like, they were super chill, like, laid back. I think they were, like, a little bit older now, too, so they were just, like, super laid back. But, like. Yeah. So I interact with them gym class heroes. You remember the gym? [00:11:46] Speaker C: Yes. [00:11:46] Speaker B: I was chopping it up with those guys. I made him laugh because one dude was, like, struggling. He's like, y' all just gonna leave me with this? I was. And I looked at him. I was like, you can go yourself. He was dying, dude. [00:12:00] Speaker C: I haven't heard them in a long time. They had a couple of hits when we were in high school, and then that was it. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah, man. They're still around, though, performing. [00:12:07] Speaker C: That's sick, dude. That's great. [00:12:09] Speaker B: So, like, I meet a lot. Like, you meet them and you chop them up. Some are cool. Some are, like, trying to keep to themselves. And so, yeah, I just played on their level. Like, if they want to chill. Yeah, cool. I ain't got to say. I'm not gonna ask them for pictures or, like, fan board, but. [00:12:21] Speaker C: Right. [00:12:22] Speaker B: They're trying to chop, we'll chop. I've had some really cool experiences. Like, I went to Chick fil a with outkast. That was pretty cool. [00:12:28] Speaker A: No way. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Big Boy. Just big Boy and, like, sleepy, like brown on some of his, like, crew and stuff. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah. But if it's Big Boy, that's sick. [00:12:35] Speaker B: As it was right when. It was right when Draymond had punched Jordan Pool. So we spent a lot of time talking about that and just chopping it up with them. And they were cool when you pull. [00:12:47] Speaker C: Up the drive theory, like, boom, boom, boom. [00:12:52] Speaker B: They were making fun of Lil Nas X. It was pretty funny. [00:12:56] Speaker C: That's easy. [00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah. That's cool, man. That's cool. I love Outcast. [00:13:01] Speaker C: No. Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Good as, bro. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Bro. That's that lyric, though. Well, it's the mi. Crooked letter. Ain't nothing better. And when I'm on the microphone, you away your sweater. Cause I'm Cooler than the polar bear's toenail. Cooler than a polar bear's toenails is probably one of the greatest rap lyrics of my. For me forever. [00:13:20] Speaker A: That's 100%. Yeah. Andre. Andre 3000. Looking old, though, bro. Looking rough. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Do you ever watch that Key and Peel? No, you never watch. So before outkast broke up, Key and Pill did this sketch. That Outcast, like, outcast had already been broken up. They broke up a while, but he did this sketch where, like, they, like. Big Boy walks into a coffee shop, and he's just, like, ordering coffee. And then Andre 3000 comes in, but he's dressed like Peter Pan, and he's playing a flute. And they're like, he's playing, like, a flute and, like, just being all ridiculous and then. And it's, like, a reason why they broke up. Fast forward to this year. That sketch comes out years ago. Like, earlier this year, Big Andre 3000 released a flute album. [00:14:07] Speaker A: You're lying. [00:14:08] Speaker C: No way. [00:14:09] Speaker B: No way. There was something to it, but the sketch is just so funny. But how accurate it was in real life. I was like, dude, that is. That's rich. That's great. [00:14:20] Speaker A: That's hilarious. They were definitely different artists after the fact, you know? I mean, like, Andre. Andre 3000 kind of went in his own way. I mean, he's dope. I mean, one of the best lyricists to come out of the south ever. Like, he's a stud, bro. He definitely went a weird direction, though. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah, he said. He just. He said anytime he started, like, doing it, he wasn't just feeling the music anymore. So. But. But the guy I work for, during acl, we were at, like, at his house, and he was, you know, impressing some of these hoes he was with as he. As one does. And he was like. [00:14:52] Speaker C: As one does. [00:14:54] Speaker B: He was talking about, like, bands. They can get together. Because he's the type of dude that's like, oh, you like the Foo Fighters? Hold up. And it would just, like, call the lead singer, the Foo Fighters and get them on the phone and shit. And, like, they were talking about bands. Like, what bands do they think he should have at the festival? So it was me, him, and then the girl from. What's the show? Ozarks. The TV show? [00:15:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:15:19] Speaker B: The girl that plays the daughter in Ozarks. Jason Bateman's daughter. [00:15:23] Speaker C: Okay. Yep. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Was her and one of her friends. So that's who we were hanging out with. And someone said, outkast. And so he calls the manager of Outkast, and he's like, do you think they'll ever come back? And they're just like, nah, dude. They don't like each other. They don't like to work together. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Oh, they don't like each other. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Not in a professional sense. Like, they're cordial, but they're not professional. Like, they're not going to work with each other anymore. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:15:46] Speaker B: They just. [00:15:47] Speaker C: Yeah. So I was gonna make a stupid dad joke. Never mind. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Let's hear it. Faji. Now that you're a faja, you can make those. [00:15:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I know, dude. I make too many, dude. [00:15:58] Speaker A: It's every time I see him, he's got a new damn dad joke. [00:16:01] Speaker C: Yeah, dude, I'm an idiot. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Well, here's a dad joke you can tell your kid. Why was the. Why was the little peanut sad? [00:16:14] Speaker C: Why? [00:16:15] Speaker B: Because it was assaulted. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Stand up comedy, bro. Say, what are you still doing stand up? [00:16:31] Speaker B: Oh, I'm still doing stand up. I actually just headlined a show in South Padre island, like, last Thursday, like, less than a week ago. I did 45 minutes on there, so. [00:16:42] Speaker C: 45 minutes, that's a good. That's long set, bro. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Bro. It was especially because at that point, I hadn't been on stage in, like, six weeks. And that's like a long time. That's like the longest I've probably not been on stage for. In the past, like, since I started comedy. I mean, outside the pandemic time. And. And I did 45 minutes and I'm like, I forgot, like, half. I'd start a joke and forget the punchline. [00:17:08] Speaker C: Did you recovered? Was it a good set, though, overall, you think? [00:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah, man, it was pretty good, like, for what it was. I was very proud of myself, honestly. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Good. [00:17:16] Speaker B: I went in because I haven't won. I don't think I'd ever done 45 minutes before, but two doing 45 minutes when I haven't done comedy in six weeks and don't remember half my jokes. So I just went up there with pretty much just mostly just a lot of. [00:17:33] Speaker A: And yeah, that sounds. [00:17:35] Speaker B: And big balls. That was pretty much what that set was. And I was like, cool, just throw my balls on this thing. We'll see how it goes. But, yeah, I'm getting back into doing more comedy. I want to. Because I've been trying to figure out the Austin comedy scene leaves a lot to be desired in terms of just the way that people do comedy out here. Yeah, Like, I don't know, Joe Rogan moved out here, and then everyone decided they could just come out here and start calling people Retards. Like, that was. That was comedy. They're just like, ah, he's a retard. He's a retard. You're gay. I'm a comic. And so it kind of made the scene out here kind of trash in that sense. [00:18:12] Speaker C: So. Yeah, speaking of, I just saw the William Montgomery at the festival. Did you see that clip? [00:18:20] Speaker B: I saw the. When he was just over there just eating a dick. [00:18:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, dude. [00:18:24] Speaker B: I think we're supposed to do like 45 minutes. And he got booed off at like 12. [00:18:28] Speaker C: Yeah, he. Dude, do you know who William Montgomery is? Quinn. [00:18:32] Speaker A: So I saw the clip. He's like, He's. He was on Kill Tony, right? And like crushes on Kill Tony. [00:18:37] Speaker C: Yeah, he's like a Kill Tony, like, legend. And. And he's definitely geared more towards that crowd. And he. I am personally, like, a fan because he's silly and he's just wild. Like, I like. And I, I think he's. I. I think he's a. A good comedian, but he is out there. But he was just at the wrong setting, it seemed like, and he was calling people out in the crowd and doing what he does, and they were not having it at all. [00:19:04] Speaker B: That's what you find with the. That's what I'm talking about with that, like, trend of comedy out here is because Kill Tony is like, the biggest thing going here. So a lot of the comics that have gotten successful in Austin have been through Kill Tony. [00:19:16] Speaker C: Y. [00:19:16] Speaker B: And so when Kill Tony has a very specific audience, right. It's a specific type of audience. But for a lot of those comics, when they leave the comfort of the Kill Tony audience, yeah, they struggle because regular people like, what the fuck is this bullshit, bro? Stop calling me a. Like, say something jokes. And they're like, that is my joke. That's the stick. Get it? Because you're retarded. And that's only funny for 12 minutes, apparently. And then everyone's like, get the off the stage, bro. [00:19:41] Speaker C: And Tony gets super repetitive in a lot of his. [00:19:46] Speaker B: He's. [00:19:46] Speaker C: He's. He's clever, but he. There is a lot of, like, he pretty much just kind of targets the same kind of humor, if that makes sense. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:55] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Yeah, it's. It's. And you find it a lot here in Austin is like, comedians that can only do like. That can do material only for, like, specific types of crowd, and then you see them outside of their preferred crowd and environment. [00:20:13] Speaker C: Right. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Are you saying that it's like just like, vulgar and Just like offensive and just in your face and you. [00:20:18] Speaker B: It's kind of like edgelord, but it's not really like, it's. It's kind of. I don't know, like, how else to describe it. Like. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Like rage bait. It's like rage bait. [00:20:30] Speaker B: It's like rage bait in real life. Like, their jokes are just like. Like every comic in Austin, for example, does. You'll do a 10 minute set. You'd go to a showcase, everyone's doing 10 minutes, and like, there'll be six or seven comics on the lineup, and five out of the six comics will do seven minutes of trans material. Right. And it's like, how many different trans jokes can you make that the last guy didn't make and the guy before him didn't make and the guy before him didn't make? You know what I'm saying? So it's like that type of. It's like, okay, we get it. Say something else. And it's like, well, this is what I got. Seven minutes of trans material. They shouldn't be playing women's sports, am I right? Like, you're not saying anything. You know what I'm saying? And it's like most people don't give a about that. That's just Internet rage bait stuff and stuff that's funny on kill, Tony. But for the average person, they're not gonna, like, respond to that. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I mean, I would imagine it's probably part of like a product of just the fact that it's being oversaturated. [00:21:23] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Like, everybody wants to be a comedian now and they see what's working, they see other people get laughs, and so they want to copy that. It becomes this kind of just like this, you know, piggyback machine, essentially. And everybody's just doing the same joke, maybe different context, maybe they're doing it in different way, but it's like, you know, where's the original ideas? [00:21:41] Speaker C: You know, I have a question. I have a question on that though, Ben, because, like, I. I went and saw Shane Gillis like a couple years ago, I think it's been. And like, it. We. I noticed that the openers, like, each one of them had a 911 joke, and then Shane had a 911 joke. So like, as like from a comedian standpoint, do you maybe like, try stuff out and then the crowd takes to it and then maybe like, if you're the next guy up, you're like, dude, that 911 joke hit. I'm gonna use my 911 joke. Does that make sense? So does that have something to do with it. [00:22:16] Speaker B: A little bit of that. I think the one thing about, like, Shane too, is, like, those guys are from Philly, so those guys are close to New York and spent a lot of time in New York. So things like 911 jokes are very popular in New York just because of the environment versus where you go to, like, Colorado, Texas. They're not as common just because we're a little bit further removed from that thing. And there is a thing to be said about, like, if you have a good bit that's a little bit different, then that's fine. Like. Or like, if you have a good bit that's like, that someone else does and you notice it works, you can do that as well. I do think that specific instance is more so just like a. These are the comics from where we're at. Like, we're in New York, we're in this area, and a 911 joke is just a part of it. But, like, there's only so many different topics you could talk about. The problem with what I see now in the repetitiveness of what comedians are doing is that they're not really saying anything. The joke isn't like, clever or well written or worded. It's just like the. The initial shock of you being like, oh, this person said trans people, or this person said retarded. And that's like, thing. If you're like, Shane Gillis is a good joke writer. He writes good jokes. His openers are good joke writers. They have good jokes. But when. What happens when the. The punchline isn't that the joke is funny? The punchline is. I'm so crazy because I'm saying that's no longer a funny joke. Right. That's not a funny punchline. Like, and some people have. I've heard really good jokes using that word. Right. But the cleverness goes when you just become like an edge Lord. And your whole thing is like, oh, I'm. I'm on the edge. I. I do hardcore comedy. You're not really taking any risks. You're just making the audience angry and then being like, oh, this audience doesn't get me. They don't understand comedy. No, they understand that you're not funny. They. We all understood that. You know, like. [00:24:10] Speaker C: And so I think. [00:24:12] Speaker B: What's up? [00:24:13] Speaker C: I was just gonna say, I think one thing I've, like, picked up on just being a fan of comedy and then, you know, with Kill Tony and just in general, I think the people that are really successful are the ones that actually talk about stuff that is really happening in their life. Right, Right. It's like real life experiences. Like, if. Like, if I walked up and did a set about something that I've never done, and, like, I'm making up a story, it's just not gonna land unless it's like, I mean, I look like a suburban white dude, so it's like, I gotta speak, dude. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Right. Well. Well, because what it really is, what it comes down to is relatability. Right? [00:24:54] Speaker C: Right. [00:24:54] Speaker B: If you're watching me and what I'm saying versus what you're seeing aren't congruent, then the humor is gonna miss. If I'm over here, like, man, it's crazy being white. [00:25:11] Speaker A: Hilarious, bro. [00:25:13] Speaker B: You know, I'm out here being like, yeah, I got small dicks. That's the problem. No one's gonna believe no, hey, man. Right. James doesn't that to kill. But. But, like, just, you know, like an example. Just, like, using that. I think there's. There's got to be, like, a level of, like, I. When I first started doing comedy, a lot of my jokes were just about being African, and it killed all the time because people saw me, they recognize it, then they recognize experiences with the African people they knew, and they can relate to that. So there's got to be a level of, like, relatability. But also, I think we live. As comedy has progressed. Like, you don't see as many like, Rodney Dangerfields anymore that are like, right, girl told me to come over. There was nobody, you know, said, come over. There's no one home. And then I went over, there was nobody home. You know, like, you don't like that type of, like, yeah, see, stick kind of thing kind of fell by the wayside. I think Richard Pryor kind of really changed that with comedy because he did comedy in such an open, honest way. And as comedy has progressed, that's become, like, the new thing that. And, like, right now, crowd work became really hot. Like when Matt Rife blew up off crowd work. So now you go to a show, everyone's like, oh, what do you do for work? You're a doctor. Okay. And now that's comedy, you know, because crowd work clips went really viral. So everyone's like, now I got to do crowd work like that. [00:26:28] Speaker C: But, dude, you. You need to bring your mom back. You just need to start saying, your mom, bring that back. [00:26:34] Speaker B: Mama. I'm just bringing a mama back for 14 minutes. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Hilarious. But I think. But I think. I think some of that rage bait comedy is like. I think it's just clip Culture. [00:26:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Like, people are just trying to get clips. Like, they just want to. Like, they want to go viral. So they're gonna say the wildest, even if it's not even that funny or fit into their set completely. They're just saying it to say it, because they want to get clipped and they want to be discovered. So I don't really hate the hustle on that. I mean, like, for me, when it comes to comedy, even if somebody has a good joke, like, it's got to be a really good joke to make me laugh. Otherwise, it's their personality that gets me. Like, the right example is Dave Chappelle. When he was younger, he was so funny. He was hilarious. Like, goofy, skinny. Like, back in, like, the, you know, nutty professor clown. And funny. And don't get me wrong, he's still funny. He's still funny, but it's different. [00:27:27] Speaker C: His delivery is different. His monotone, everything. [00:27:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the other thing, too, that about comedy is, like, after you've been doing comedy for a while, you start realizing that, like, sure, your jokes and words can be funny, but what happens is you as a person become funny. Your perspective, your ideas, your views. And Dave Chappelle is a great example of that because, like, when you watch his early comedy, like, he used to have that bit where he talked. He's like, I used to have the dangerous job. I used to have the most dangerous job in the world. He's like, I was. He's like, I lived in D.C. and I was a delivery driver for Domino's. He's like, I got robbed so many times last. And I started breaking into the house like, here's the pizza. Which one of y' all gonna tip me? You know, like. And it's funny watching it, but, like, it's hard to. Like, that same style of. For Dave Chappelle wouldn't work now, because Dave Chappelle is a good jillionaire. He's now, like, the biggest comic in the world. So as he changes, his comedic styles have to change, too. Yeah, and you want someone like, for example, Kevin Hart. It's like Kevin Hart's first three comedy specials. Hilarious, like, oh, like, I'm a grown little man. Seriously funny. Laughing. My. Like, when he was talking about that, oh, she said, yeah, you ain't got no devil. Like, that was funny. But, like, Kevin Hart, now, every time you turn on your commercial, your tv, Kevin Hart's doing a new not funny movie. He's doing every commercial you've ever seen. He's making all these Appearances. And now he can't really keep up comedically in the sense that, like, he's not out there writing his jokes and testing his materials at clubs all the time. [00:29:03] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:29:03] Speaker B: But what he ends up doing is he has a bunch of people write jokes, and then he'll, like, take premises or ideas that he likes, and then he'll build an act around that. And it's still, like, marketable to Netflix because he's Kevin Hart. But the comedic aspect of that is now kind of gone a little bit. So there's different parts of comedy that, like, the best comics are able to do put together. It's like you have the word portion, like, just the jokes you say in the words themselves. Then you have, like, the charisma portion, where that's the act outs, that's the stage presence, that's the facial expressions, the inclinations in your voice. Then some people have the ability to, like, relate it to, like, the crowd work. There's all these different tools, and the best comics are available to combine all of that. But some comics, as you grow and change, you get more of that or less of this, more of that. And it's just kind of figuring out the right combination to make things funny stuff. [00:29:55] Speaker C: But when I feel like it. [00:29:57] Speaker B: What's up? I was. [00:29:58] Speaker C: I was gonna say, I feel like if you're a certain level, like, if I am going to see Kevin Hart, I'm naturally just. I love the guy just from being a fan, you're gonna laugh at certain jokes that may not actually be that funny. [00:30:13] Speaker B: Right. [00:30:13] Speaker C: Just because you're. You're a fan of the person itself. You know what I mean? [00:30:18] Speaker B: For sure, for sure. There's definitely aspects of that. Like when I went to go watch Joe Rogan here in Austin, that was tricky, bro. I've never seen anything like that in the sense that, like, it was Joe Rogan at a Joe Rogan comedy club. Like, everyone was there to see him, and he walked on stage and he's like, what's up? Everyone's like, this guy's a cracker. Right? But then, like, by, like, 10 minutes in, after that wore off, it was like, this guy's not that funny. It was hard to watch, you know, everyone else on this bill. Hilarious. This could be. So there is a level of that, but only to a certain extent. Like, that'll get people into the door and it'll give you the leg up. But if you don't keep that, it's going to slowly start dropping off as people are like, yeah, this isn't that funny. And so you still, even if you are like a. And people like a Dave Chappelle or Kevin Hart or whoever, and people are there to see you, you still have to be able to give them something to laugh at. The cool thing about Kevin Hart is that a lot of what makes Kevin Hart funny is, is just be him being Kevin Hart. The facial expressions, the. Yeah, yeah, what are we doing? You know, that whole thing, it could just be funny. [00:31:26] Speaker C: And dude, even, even his like, bit with LeBron with. On the DraftKings commercial talking about him like four scores and like, because he looks like he's making LeBron looking like he served in the Silver War, I'm like, that's actually funny. Like, that's funny. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Kevin Hart is funny as a person. His stand up comedy. I haven't even watched the new special on Netflix. Have you guys watched it? [00:31:51] Speaker C: No. [00:31:52] Speaker B: No, I probably won't. I don't know. I. Maybe I'll get around to it and see if it's funny, but I have very low hopes. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, to your point, he's a different person. I mean, he's like a megastar now. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker A: And you made the point earlier, like a good comedian, somebody that you can relate to. Like the joke that he's saying you can relate to. So maybe. But, but I mean, it's Kevin Hart, bro. Like, if he's making short king jokes, I'm all about it. I'm with it. I'm there with her, bro. [00:32:18] Speaker C: That's. [00:32:18] Speaker A: I'm all there. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's my guy. [00:32:22] Speaker C: Right? [00:32:22] Speaker B: There's, there's still people that can keep it fresh and funny though. Like, Cat Williams still, like travels and still does comedy. And Cat Williams might be one of the funniest human beings that he changed the whole. Like, Cat Williams, 20. Was that this year when he did the, the podcast with, with Shannon Sharp? Was that the beginning of this year? [00:32:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was the beginning of this year or later. [00:32:45] Speaker C: It was last year. Last year, I believe. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Even last year. [00:32:48] Speaker C: Yep. [00:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that. [00:32:49] Speaker C: But it was, it was great, bro. [00:32:51] Speaker B: That, that podcast alone, he got more views in that podcast in like three weeks than Kevin, than Joe Rogan had had on any of his podcasts put out, like, ever. Like, he changed the, the, the concept of just all the talking. He was talking about Diddy before it happened. [00:33:08] Speaker A: Like, yeah, totally. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Sometimes Diddy wants to party and you gotta tell him. No, it was. [00:33:16] Speaker C: Dude, that shit's wild, bro. The. That's coming out about that. That is Wild, bro. [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah, so, yeah, he was still. So. Yeah, that was 20, 24, but like, so you can still be big and still be funny, but it has to maintain it because comedy is very different than other things in that specific aspect. Like, you gotta. [00:33:35] Speaker C: It's just like anything, bro. It's so hard to be at that level for so long and hold that. I mean, dude, you're hungry. You. You can say you're still hungry, but if you're staying at five star resorts and eating at the best Michelin star restaurants and you're living this lifestyle, it's not the same, dude. And we're all human. We're all gonna naturally adapt to that lifestyle, and you're just not gonna be able to just be as creative, dude. [00:34:04] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. I mean, and you see it in other things, too. Like, Conor McGregor is always talking about a comeback, and one of my friends always like, Conor McGregor's gonna. No, Conor McGregor is done. That dude will never fight. Or if he fights again, he's gonna be in there getting his ass whooped because why does he have to fight? You're gonna go into a ufc fight for 500k when you sold your whiskey company for 300 mil? [00:34:23] Speaker A: Holy. [00:34:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker B: Yeah. No. [00:34:25] Speaker C: Did he sell it. Did he sell it to barstool? [00:34:28] Speaker B: I don't know if he sold it to barstool. I thought he sold his whiskey to somebody. And he sold it for, like, he got a heavy. He got a lot of money. A lot more money. I mean, he also. He made 100 million to box. [00:34:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Pacquiao. It's like, now you're gonna get in the ring with some young buck that wants to take your head off to make his name. I. He's just there. It's not there anymore. And to your point, James, that's. The hunger is gone. To be a fighter, you need that hunger. And comedy is very similar in that. Like, it's because a lot of people, I can't be up there, like, man, I got so much money. Life is hard. Like, that's a hard joke to make work. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Right? [00:35:04] Speaker B: And so there's levels to it in that sense. Like, you can still be funny, but it's just a lot harder now. People go see you for the, oh, let me go see you. Rather than like, oh, this guy's actually still hilarious. There's a few comics. [00:35:18] Speaker C: What's. What's the guy's name? Oh, my God. He. He. He talks about his marriage all the time. Not, um. Yes, yes, dude. [00:35:31] Speaker B: He. [00:35:31] Speaker C: I mean, he literally talks about pretty Much the same thing all the time. But it's. It. It's relatable, it's funny, it's his style. And it's like, it can always work, probably because it's always an ongoing thing. You know what I mean? [00:35:43] Speaker B: And that's. That's kind of his whole shtick is like, he's very. He does very. Like, he's the exact. He's like the complete opposite of an edgelord. Like, he's not trying to rape bait anyone. He's trying to, like, keep. And that's his thing, and that's why people go, like him, like him. But Nate Bargazi is different because, like, compared to Kevin Hart, Nate Bargazi is still, like, a working comedian. That's what he does. He's still doing comedy, he's still doing clubs, he's still traveling around, doing arenas or whatever he's doing. That's his thing. The hard part for Kevin Hart is how many movies has that dude done in the past, like, three years? It feels like he's been in every movie, he's been on every commercial. He's been making appearances everywhere. He's starting all these businesses. He's just everywhere. And it's like he's. That's not his focus anymore. So that changes as well. [00:36:29] Speaker A: So is that it? Is that. Is that how you keep the funny is you just keep practicing every day, like, you just constantly going, testing out new material, trying new crowds, going different places, just testing yourself. [00:36:40] Speaker B: That's the way to. That's like the really. That's really the only way. Because comedy, unlike anything, is. Is like, if you want to play music, you can sit in your garage by yourself and get really good at music. You could do a play and practice a role and go method acting and do really well. But, like, I can sit in my bait. I can sit in my room and say the same joke 100 times to where I know it, and then do it on stage and it eats a dick because it doesn't mean anything. You know, like, comedy is the one thing where the audience is just as much of a part of it as the person performing. Yeah, they are like. They are the thing. Like, it. You can do music. That's why it's harder to do. That's why no one. Like, you can watch a concert on TV and bounce your head along to the song and be like, it ain't the same. It's not the same as, like, being there. But, like, that's why bands that haven't been bands can go from not performing or whatever. Go on tour and still have good shows because everyone knows the songs. They sing the songs, and it's cool. It brings back reminiscent. All the memories. But you don't go and do comedy for a while. Like, they're asking Eddie Murphy, like, why he hadn't come back and done comedies. Like, because I'd have to write the jokes. I'd have to go test them out at comedy clubs and do all of those. Because you have to do all of that to make sure these jokes work, to make sure these punch lines are hitting, to see where the beats are. Like, if you don't know that, you have to. That's the only way you can figure that out. There's no way. And that's a very specific thing to comedy. [00:38:08] Speaker A: I got a. I have a caveat to that. I think somebody cheated the system and figure out a way around it is Dice Clay. He had the same damn jokes over and over again. People came to see those same jokes, and they loved it. I'm sure it got old after a while, but, like, that guy milked it. Like, he milked it for a long time. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:26] Speaker B: Andrew Dice K. Well, he was a character. Like, you can see, like, he did the same set and same jokes, but, like, he did them at different places. Like, it's not like it was like a tour and a special thing, but, like, if you look at Dice Clay, that was his, like, stick, and everyone came to see the stick, but they knew what they were coming to see. Right. And so he was playing character. He was playing the character and he was doing those jokes. But even that, over time, ran out of steam. Like. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. That's true. [00:38:54] Speaker B: And you're seeing. [00:38:55] Speaker C: Because if you see him now, it's. He's not getting nearly the. I mean, he's not doing good at all. [00:39:01] Speaker B: There's that dude off of a Kill Tony, Timmy, no breaks, dude. [00:39:05] Speaker C: He sounds just like him. I don't know how he's getting. I don't know how anyone's calling him out for. He's doing Dice Clay. [00:39:11] Speaker B: That's exactly. He's doing Dice. [00:39:13] Speaker C: I. I was like, how is. How is Tony not calling this kid out for. He calls out everyone else. [00:39:19] Speaker B: But I was like, Tony tried to call him out. If you ever watch his first appearance, Tony was like, I hate this guy. Because Tony hates characters. But the audience loved him so much. Tony had to. Just because the crowd decides. That's the thing about comedy. The crowd plays such a big part. And even though Tony was like, this guy's, what the fuck are you doing? The crowd was dying, so he had to jump on board because the crowd and the people were with him. It's like in Gladiator when the crowd is like, ah. And now the king has to be like, all right, I guess we're going to let this guy. Because the crowd said so. And that comedy just works in that way. That's why there's such a unique part of the comedy experience as opposed to, like, any other live performance. [00:39:57] Speaker C: I saw a guy the other night that was. Sounded just like Hannibal Burris. I was like, bro. I was like, dude, this is Hannibal Burris. Like, if I was closing my eyes and just listening, I was like, this is Hannibal Burris. And it's like, I get it. Because, like, I mean, I'm not. I've never tried stand up. I've never even thought of doing it or even I think it. What you guys do is incredible, but it's just like, if you're a fan of something, I'm sure you guys are going to. You naturally pick up on their lingos and. And their tone and how their delivery, because that's how you kind of want to repeat your own success, but it's. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. [00:40:34] Speaker C: You gotta, like, find your own style and, you know, rhythm and all that. [00:40:38] Speaker B: You got to find your own voice is what they call it in comedies. You got to find your voice because when you start doing comedy, a lot of people do comedy. Like, the people that they watch do comedy to growing up or the people that got them into comedy. So you see it all the time when you go to, like, small shows and stuff. You'll see, like, new comics and you'll be like, oh, they're doing Jesel Nick. That was really big for a while. [00:40:59] Speaker C: Or, dude, I love Jessel Nick. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah, but. And a lot of people tried to, like, remake his style and, like, people, like, talk like him, like, and it's just. You can tell right away. And so even if that's your person, you have to figure out how to, like, okay, this is what I like about them. But also inject some of yourself into that. So now it's not just you sounding like you're doing it just. Just on the compression, but you doing you. Even if your styles are similar, what. [00:41:26] Speaker C: Would we be like? What would. What's the difference from, like, when we last saw you perform in my bachelor party in Myrtle beach with a bunch of rednecks. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Which you killed, by the way. [00:41:38] Speaker C: Which you killed. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Not only did you kill Ben you probably saved Levi's life because he was going to get murdered for sure. Dude. [00:41:45] Speaker B: We were all going to get. [00:41:46] Speaker A: Dude, yeah. Levi was the victim, dude. [00:41:53] Speaker C: Dude, when you were going, you were doing your thing, Ben. I was, like, rounding up the guys. I was like, guys, as soon as he's done, we have to get the out of here, because we're gonna get stabbed. [00:42:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:05] Speaker C: And then you killed. You absolutely killed. Yeah. [00:42:08] Speaker B: I think mostly what grows in comedy, like, for me is just of the more you do it, the more I do it, it's like there's just more of a comfort on stage, and that comfort on stage allows you to be more free. So I think from where you guys last saw me to where I am now, comedically, it's just. There's a lot more me on stage. I'm a lot less nervous. Like, I mean, and that grows in time and a lot more comfortable. So that allows me to do more riffing, say more what of what I want, and just kind of be more out there. Sometimes I'll just be talking and just jump into what is these sheets. I do not give you. Do not laugh. I do not, you know, just jump into. Because it's funny to me, and I think there's got to be a level. I think there's more. Now, like, when I, when, like, back when I first started doing comedy, it's always kind of progressed. Like, you write these jokes and you're like, is this funny? I hope you go from like, is this funny? To I, I, I hope this is funny to I think this is funny to I know this is funny to I am funny. [00:43:21] Speaker C: Love that. [00:43:21] Speaker B: And that's like the. It's like the growth from I know this is funny what I'm doing to I am funny. He's like, whatever I'm doing up here, y' all jump on board. Because if you're not laughing, that's a you problem. Because I'm fun. That's kind of like the levels of, like, the, the comedic thing. And you look at, like, the best comedians, like, even Bill Bird, Dave Chappelle is like, I'm funny, so whatever I'm doing up here, it's good. I know it's funny. So you're. It's your job. Whether you laugh or not doesn't matter to me. I'm doing my thing and I know I'm funny. And that's. That's kind of the levels that it goes to. [00:43:59] Speaker A: Do you. Do you get better after you eat a bag of dicks or after you Crush A show 100. [00:44:05] Speaker B: The Bag of Dicks will teach you way more than killing a set. 100. It's not even relatively close. You feel good after you do well, but when you eat a bag of dicks, you rethink your whole life. Right? [00:44:21] Speaker A: But that's my thing, right? Like, that's. The whole thing is like, are you learning from your mistakes or are you, like, you know, in your own head, like, oh, I shouldn't. I should have delivered it like this. I should have done this. I didn't do this good. But after a good show, you're like, yo, I crushed it on this punchline. Like, I really had good buildup to this, the ending of this story or whatever the case may be. You know what I mean? [00:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, when you crush a set, like, it feels good. You're like, oh, I'm funny. There's a saying in comedy. Like, you're only as good as your last set, right? A lot of comedians be like, you're only as good as your last set. And it. Sometimes it'll happen in the same night. Comedy is a very humbling experience in the sense that, like, yeah, there's been nights where I've done multiple shows in a night. Went to a room, did these jokes. Murdered. I know comedy. I'm the guy. I got this. I'm fun. Walk into the next set. What the fuck just happened, bro? But what it is is the thing about comedy that you have to remember is the most important thing is one of the most important things is being able to read a room. So what works for this room might not work for this room. And you, like we were talking about earlier, Yeah, I did these jokes at Kill Tony. Audiences in Downt in Austin crushed. Like, one of my friends is like, we did that show in South Padre. He went up before me. He was featuring. He's like, yeah, I did run the set in Austin. Did a half hour. He's like, yeah, it went really well. I murdered and crushed it. Whatever. Did that same half hour and South Padre Island. Different audience, different people, and he ate a bag of dicks. And afterwards, he was like, I learned a lot. And that's when you learn. He didn't learn that lesson from crushing. He learned from eating the bag of dicks. Because, yeah, you then have to learn that just because something's funny in one room doesn't mean it's funny everywhere you go. So very important to understand your audience, understand the crowd. And then if your shit's not working, then you got to figure out because if People are laughing in the crowd for someone else, then you know they can laugh. So if they're not laughing at you, that's not, oh, this crowd sucks. That's. You are sucking to this crowd. And that's very different. So you gotta figure that out. That's the job. [00:46:29] Speaker C: What's kind of like, what's like your day to day process with everything? And I imagine when you're like doing the road and you're going to different locations, like, are you researching, like, say you're going over to like San Francisco, Are you maybe tailoring a set that's going to land a little bit more with the San Francisco folks? Or are you kind of keeping your jokes the same and maybe just doing it a little bit differently? And then also. Yeah, what's like your writing process? [00:46:59] Speaker B: Writing process is when I'm. When I'm on top of my writing, which is. But ideally I like to spend time writing every day when it's working and then try to come up with new jokes and ideas. And then my favorite thing for me is I kind of, I like to come up with premises, ideas, and then I'll go to like open mics and just start talking, see what comes out and see what I can make from that and kind of build from there in terms of tailoring sets and stuff to audiences. One of the things that I used to do just on my own, kind of randomly, like anytime I went to a new room or place, I noticed something. I'd always start off my set with like a joke about the room or the city or the place. And then I watched Cat Williams do like 15 minutes on Jacksonville and explain how every time he goes to a new city, he like goes around the city and then he writes a bunch of jokes or does jokes and materials about that city. And so I've kind of taken that, I've taken that one joke or statement or thing that I used to start my set and kind of done as much about the area as I can. [00:48:07] Speaker C: Which makes total sense. [00:48:09] Speaker B: And then, and then the part about like, for example, I do this joke and I found that I can switch out the punchline to be wherever I am and make that joke still funny. And because I can do the joke and it'll get a good chuckle if I do it about Austin. But if I'm in say Denver or San Francisco, if I use a place in that area that the people can relate to now, that joke hits way harder. So there's like little things like that that you can change. And then the other Part is just kind of understanding your audience in the sense that some crowds like dirty jokes. Some crowds do not. Some crowd like fucked up jokes. Some crowds don't. Some. Some crowds like the edgelord stuff. Some crowds don't. So you have to figure out like when I did that show in South Padre, anything about religion, they were. If you made anything about. Made fun of religion or anything like that, they were just shutting down. They're not touching any of that. Right. So that was. [00:49:07] Speaker C: Where is South Padre? [00:49:09] Speaker B: It's like South East Padre. [00:49:20] Speaker A: It's like South Padre. [00:49:23] Speaker B: Well played, sir. Well played. That was a good one. Southeast Texas. [00:49:35] Speaker C: I'm funny. No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Yeah, what I was gonna say before I was really interrupted by J. [00:49:43] Speaker C: Stupid. [00:49:44] Speaker B: So stupid. South. Yeah, Southeast Texas. It's like right on the coast. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like five and a half. Five, five. Five and a half hours away from Austin. [00:49:54] Speaker C: Gotcha. Okay. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah, so. But yeah, those people, that crowd was crazy because they were all like old, conservative white people in their like 40s, 50s and 60s. Oh, what do they got? So what do I got to relate with this 35 year old black man? I'm like, well, bro choices, that's for sure. So where did that topic. [00:50:16] Speaker C: And abortion jokes, Maybe that's where I. [00:50:19] Speaker B: Started, you know, like, you know what I miss? Black presidents. Who's with me? I didn't do a joke. The. Probably the first time I've tried that joke on stage. And the joke was just. It was like, what was even the joke? It was a simple joke. It was like, I understand why people are like, I'm like, I get why people voted for Trump. And people are nervous. You know, it's like, because America is kind of losing its identity. Like the best baseball player, America's pastime, baseball. The best baseball players from Japan. Right. The best NBA basketball player. He's from Serbia. He's European. I mean, hell, even the best president we've ever had in the United States is from Africa. Maybe we should have built that wall, you know, and they like that. But it's like I'm saying he's the best president ever, but I'm also saying he's from Africa. So it's like getting both sides of that because they think he's from Africa. That I am sure. So. Right. No, it's just like figuring out what works in that and kind of tailoring ideas and jokes to these people in that environment. [00:51:30] Speaker A: What's. What's the most hostile crowd you've ever had to deal with. [00:51:37] Speaker B: I've had some hostiles. Like when I started comedy in New England, we'd go do these open mics before I was ever like doing and things. I'd go do these open mics in like back like New Hampshire or whatever. And you'd be at some bar and there's like 10 people and they're all facing the bar. And then you're on the microphone behind them. I'm talking to their backs. And these rooms are like, if I could get people to turn around, I'm like, this joke's murdering, you know? Yeah, they're just turning around and even paying attention. [00:52:08] Speaker C: Well, shame on the whoever promoted that place. Shame on them for that. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah, and so that's kind of like the game is just. Some rooms out there were just brutal. So now it's like, if I walk into a room and the people are facing me and they're for comedy, we got a show. Like, the rest is on me. The people are there, they are looking at me. That's all I can ask for, right? People in a room looking at me. The rest that's on me. And that's on me to figure it. Yeah, that's how I do it. [00:52:40] Speaker A: I listen. I listen to Matt and Shane's secret podcast all the time because I think they're fucking hilarious. And like, I listen to the old episodes and Matt talks about when he's doing stand up comedy at a fucking topgolf. Like, imagine having to do fucking comedy at a topgolf. How wild is that? [00:52:57] Speaker C: That's like those corporate events too. Yeah, those gotta be hard, bro. [00:53:01] Speaker B: I've done some comedy. I remember during the pandemic, we were doing outdoor comedy shows that drive in movie theaters, right? So I would be on a stage outside, the audience would be in their cars turning into a radio station. So now I'm standing by myself on a stage. [00:53:21] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:53:22] Speaker B: Walking out into the abyss, just hoping I'm not eating a bag of dick. [00:53:28] Speaker C: And even if they laugh, you can't even hear it. Were they honking if it was funny, right? [00:53:32] Speaker B: So you're just out there just hoping. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Bro. You're just peering into the cars. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Like, are they laughing? Yeah, if it's funny, flash your lights. Like, what do you. Yeah, flash your lights. I mean, you know, like, yeah, bro, yeah. You're just out there. [00:53:55] Speaker C: So then people start backing up and. [00:53:57] Speaker A: You'Re like, oh, no. They just start their car. [00:54:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:04] Speaker C: You're like, yeah, yeah. [00:54:06] Speaker B: They're like, this sucks. They just drowned me out with horns instead of walking them. I drove them, bro. They just drove right off. Right. Like, that's. It's a. Yeah. So some of that outdoor comedy is notoriously difficult. [00:54:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it's hard for everyone, bro. [00:54:25] Speaker B: I've done some outdoor comedy, and outdoor comedy is hard. It is. That's the thing is, like, when comedy. Comedy is one of those things where, like, when it's flowing and you're in the zone, it feels effortless. But when it's not, that feels like work. Like you come on stage and you're sweating your tires, just ran a 400. You're like, just happened, bro. People weren't flashing their lights or anything. Yeah. So it's just. Yeah, it's sort of an environment. [00:54:55] Speaker C: Sounds like the passion's still there and the love is still there. [00:54:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it wasn't for a while, but I found once I took the time to think about it, the process of just being on stage and performing, I think that's one of my favorite things in the world. There's nothing cooler than that. [00:55:13] Speaker A: When are we gonna see you on Kill Tony, homie? Are you gonna do it? Are you gonna try? [00:55:17] Speaker B: I haven't been to Kill Tony in years. [00:55:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Would you do it? [00:55:21] Speaker B: I mean, yes, I would do Kill Tony. I have no problem doing it. I just don't want to. The process of doing Kill Tony now, it's like, it's a whole night. So you gotta. [00:55:32] Speaker C: It's. It's. You're just a luck of a draw, right? [00:55:35] Speaker B: Well, you gotta go like an hour, hour and a half before the show starts or whatever to sign up and get your name in the bucket, and then you got to go to the bar across the street and just wait. So you start your night starts at about 6 and ends at about 10 in hopes that your name is one of the 280, 300 people in the bucket called out. [00:55:56] Speaker A: Right. [00:55:57] Speaker B: And then I know a lot of people that have been on Kill Tony, and then that's it. They were just on Kill Tony and nothing happened. Right. So it's like. I don't know. I mean, if I get to a point where I get invited to, like, be on Kill Tony, and they're like, yeah, we'll get you on, sure. But, like, am I gonna go sit there and wait four hours for my name to get pulled out of a bucket at this point? [00:56:22] Speaker A: Do you. Are there. Are there people that they, like, get in like. Like, they deliberately have. Do, like, their. Their one minute outside of being picked from the bucket? [00:56:30] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could tell. You could tell. It's like. It is random, I would say, most of the time, but there are certain times that it's like. I think the way they do it is if Tony sees the crowd, it's like, these bucket poles are rough. I think he'll just pull another random one, and then it'll be someone he knows that can do a solid minute. Am I wrong, Ben? [00:56:53] Speaker B: I mean, there's a little bit of that, too. And then, like, people that come, like, visit or, like, people that Tony wants to, like, have on the actual podcast and he'll, like, have them on there as well. So, yeah, there's. I would say, of the names, because also the other thing is, like, he tries to get, like, a woman up every time, too. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Then you have all the regulars. So there's probably maybe every episode, like, I'd probably say usually what, like, seven or eight or 10 people or so seven to 10 people go up each night to, like, to do a minute. And I'd probably say maybe three or four of those are actually bucket pools, and the rest are, like, either, like, going through the names until you get, like, a woman or, like, bringing up the regulars or, like, people that are in town visiting or people that he wants to get out. So I'd probably say it's about 50, 50 or 60, 40 more towards them. Get bringing people up instead of bucket pools. [00:57:44] Speaker C: So, yeah, you have, like. I wonder what those odds are if there's 250 bucket, like, polls, three people. I don't even. I can't even do the quick math, but I get it. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Odds are slim. We'll put it that way. [00:57:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:58] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, Think about three. [00:58:00] Speaker C: Then there's some. What's wild is there's some people that get on, like, consistently, and you always wonder. It's like, okay, were they getting pulled right on purpose? Because there's some people that get pulled, like, three times in a month or three times in, like, whatever it is. So you just gotta wonder if you. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Were good or if you had, like. Like, for example, Timmy, no breaks. [00:58:21] Speaker C: Like, Right. [00:58:21] Speaker B: Got his name pulled, and then they brought him back to the show. So they brought him back when he came on again after that. [00:58:28] Speaker C: But I think that was, like, they knew it wasn't. Like, it wasn't like, a bucket pool. [00:58:32] Speaker B: Like, they brought him. [00:58:32] Speaker C: Right. I think it was intentional, like. [00:58:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It just depends, like, how your interview went, like, if you're funny, interesting, or, like, whatever. Because still, Tony to. The other thing is like, your minute is one thing, but the more important thing about the show is the. [00:58:45] Speaker C: The interview, dude. Some of the people that come. You're just like, these people are out of control. Like, these are just different humans. And you learn, like, some really cool stuff like that. Like, to your point, the interview portion is just like, you can have a shitty minute, but then you learn about this guy. You're like, holy, this. This person's actually pretty interesting. [00:59:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely a big part of it. And I'm like, if I go up there, my interview, what do you do? I'm pretty chill, bruh. [00:59:16] Speaker C: You would be good, bro. You're. [00:59:17] Speaker B: I mean, I'm sure I would. I have no idea what I talk about in the interview. Maybe I just do a minute about being. I just walk. What, does this kill Tony? I'll kill Tony right now. I do not give a kid this right now. That's going to be my five. My one minute. Kill Tony. Lionel killed Tony in Africa. I'll tell you what. Did Lionel kill Tony today? [00:59:41] Speaker C: There you go. [00:59:42] Speaker A: What's the interview portion? I never seen the interview portion. The. Is that. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Yeah. So the way that kill Tony works is you go up there, you do a minute of comedy, and then Tony just starts asking you questions. [00:59:53] Speaker A: Oh, I see. After. I see, I see, I see. Okay. [00:59:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:57] Speaker A: I thought you meant, like, they sat him down and they, like, interview them. [01:00:00] Speaker B: No, no, but, like, if you're interviewing. But, like, if your interview goes well, it could be like, five, ten minutes of them, like, talking to the panel and asking you questions and stuff like that. [01:00:08] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's. Whenever I've seen it, it's more them just talking to you. [01:00:12] Speaker C: Yeah, most of the time. [01:00:14] Speaker B: Yeah, most of the time it's just Tony talking. [01:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:16] Speaker B: So you seem kind of. And you seem kind of gay. [01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah, Tony's gay. Is gay as hell, bro. [01:00:25] Speaker A: 100%, bro. [01:00:27] Speaker B: The. Tony himself, like, the human being. Tony Hinchcliff. He's a dick. [01:00:33] Speaker C: Oh, you could tell, bro. He's just. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Like, no one likes him. Like, no one actually likes Tony Hinchcliff, the person. Like, no one likes him. If you want to watch a funny clip, there's one with when Bill Burr was on there and he cars. He. He calls Tony a smarmy. That was one of my favorites. [01:00:56] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know. [01:00:58] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't watch the podcast. I don't really. Maybe one day I'll get on it, but we'll see. I think that's. I think that boat is already sailed for me, so. [01:01:08] Speaker C: Yeah, you mean your own journey. Do whatever. [01:01:10] Speaker B: It's not like my own thing, so. What I've figured out now too is I just like doing longer sets. I like doing half hours, 45 minutes, 20 minutes minimum. Like, I just like being on stage for longer. You just get to stretch your legs and around a little bit more, which is why I like to do it. So who knows what'll happen. But I am definitely working on ways to set up more stage time for myself. So I actually just had a little meeting about that before I got on this podcast. So. [01:01:41] Speaker A: What do you do to promote yourself? Are you. Do you like, clip your. Your videos up or like, what do you do? [01:01:48] Speaker B: Normally I should. And sometimes I go through phases. Yeah, about that. [01:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah, like, dude, send me your Insta and I'll follow you. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I should. And I don't as much, but. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like if I do start clipping more stuff, it'll just be like random moments from the stage. Yeah. Much as like my material. And I really. What I really am gonna start doing though, is just making random, like talking into the. The. The camera videos about just like funny things or saying like different things daily. And I think that's more so where what I'm leaning towards in terms of promoting myself and kind of getting more juice behind my gram, so to speak, because that kind of. Because that's where it kind of is really gone is just having Instagram followers and getting more of those eyes on you. Because once you get a certain amount of followers, then you could take that anywhere, totally form anywhere. And that's kind of become the name of the game. So if. [01:02:53] Speaker C: Other than that, what's. What's. What's your world, man? What's like, what are you doing? [01:03:02] Speaker B: I've been in the space where. So I mean, I do the. The music festival things. I do comedy still. And then I do like some random day gigs. I. I do. I lead a food tour in downtown Austin. [01:03:18] Speaker C: Oh, that's right, you're still doing that. [01:03:20] Speaker B: What the does that mean? I mean, I just schedule those whenever I have time and I'll probably do like maybe five, seven in a month or so. [01:03:26] Speaker A: So. But what do you do? What the. What does that mean? You go. You take into different restaurants and. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Exactly. So groups of people come out to Austin usually like the other day, I did one Yesterday with like 9, 10 people or whatever. And essentially we just gather them up, give them a breakdown. We go to restaurants, I get them Food. I tell them about the restaurant food. We just hang out and chop it up. We go to the next spot, and we do that over, like, three hours. Go to, like, five different spots. [01:03:52] Speaker C: Love that. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [01:03:53] Speaker C: What's the. I mean, dude, Terry Blacks is obviously what we've heard from our side of, you know, the firm from barbecue. But it's like, I've heard Terry Blacks and what's the other big name, but what's your. What's your go to? Barbecue. [01:04:05] Speaker A: Oh, man. [01:04:06] Speaker B: So there's so much barbecue in Austin. Terry Blacks and Franklin's are probably the most popular spot. [01:04:11] Speaker C: Okay. [01:04:12] Speaker B: But Terry Blocks is funny because there's a barbecue spot here called Blacks and Blacks has been in Austin since, like, the 60s and 70s. And then they had the family. It's one family. It was started by, like, a guy, and then it went down generationally with his brothers and their. His brother and then their kids and so on. But then at some point, the family had a falling out. So Terry Blacks is what came out of that. So Terry Blacks is just black barbecue. And now. But the funny part is that in Lockhart, Texas, where the blacks were started originally, they put a Terry Blacks right across the street. And then they just talk to each other. [01:04:49] Speaker C: No way. [01:04:50] Speaker B: It's like The Hatfields and McCoys of barbecue, bro. They, like, sue each other. One of them's a billboard and talks about the other on the billboard. So then the other side sued them over the billboard one. Sounds like we haven't seen our grandma in 13 years. Like, I love that. Yeah. So it's literally. [01:05:09] Speaker C: And they're all just making probably tons of money and just. And just all pissed off. [01:05:14] Speaker B: Yeah, everyone's pissed off about something. So. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:19] Speaker B: Popular from the Joe Rogan podcast, though. Joe Rogan blew him up on his podcast, his Instagram. So when this dude is telling me he's like, after Joe Rogan put him on there. His Instagram for the sixth time, I was like, I should go there. [01:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:30] Speaker B: And that's what it is. It's like the Rogan bump. So now because of Rogan, everyone's like Terry Blacks. But there's so much good barbecue in Austin, though. Lob barbecue is good. Interstellar barbecue got a Michelin star. Leroy and Lewis got a Michelin star. So there's like. Yeah. So there's barbecue all over the place, and it's all pretty good, honestly. How. [01:05:50] Speaker A: How do you like Boston? I mean, Austin versus Boston? [01:05:55] Speaker B: Boston sucks. The Celtics suck. The Patriots suck. Their weather sucks. The drivers suck. Clam chowder. Is. [01:06:13] Speaker C: That's a clip, dude. I'm clipping this. [01:06:20] Speaker B: Boston sports fans are the worst, bro. Everywhere you go in Boston, Title Town usa, bro. You guys can't all be Title Town usa. Just all the time. [01:06:30] Speaker C: And then this year, baby, Denver, baby. Let's go. [01:06:33] Speaker B: And then Boston, and everyone has that grody accent. Dude, I went to Southy, dude. Go to Dunkin Donuts, kid. Dude. Dude, Tom Brady's the gold, kid. Dude, Like, God, like that accent. Could you imagine hooking up with a girl and she had the Boston accent? Oh, yeah, dude. Give it to me, dude. Yeah, dude. [01:06:56] Speaker C: I mean, Blake Lively in the town. I'm. I'm giving her a pass. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Oh, God, James, give it to me. No, bro, that's fine. Park your car, dude, and give me that dick, dude. [01:07:15] Speaker A: Dude, if a girl's calling me, dude, that's already a buzz kill, bro. Like, off. Don't be calling me dude. [01:07:20] Speaker B: Yeah, give me that dick, son. Like, what are you. Everything about Boston is. The only cool thing about Boston and Massachusetts in general is if you go there during the fall and the leaves are changing, you're like, all right, this is pretty dope. [01:07:37] Speaker C: Yeah, that's cool. [01:07:38] Speaker B: And then winter comes and lasts the next seven months, and you're like, this is not that tight. [01:07:43] Speaker C: So you still got family up there? [01:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah, my sister still live up there. My mom moved out there. So my sisters and my mom's out there. But, like, Austin is a hangout city, and I really don't know how the city still survives. Like, no one here has a job. No one here works. They just hang out. They're just always hanging out at the highway. They're hanging out on 6th street, just drinking. Like, what's there to do in Austin? Drink. What else? We could drink by the pool. You go to the lake. Like, there's. Yeah, Austin's just. It's hanging out. People are here chilling. There's some live music, a lot of stand up comedy, and it's more of a vibe. Yeah, it's just. It's a hangout city. You come to Austin to hang out. You walk downtown Austin in the middle of like a Tuesday work day. You're like, where's all the people, bro? It's like, we ain't working. Nah, they ain't doing that. [01:08:41] Speaker C: A lot of people have like, is that home? Is that gonna be home for a while still? [01:08:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Because there's nowhere else I've want to go. [01:08:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:49] Speaker B: I don't want to deal with winners anymore. You know how dope it Is to walk outside in the middle of the December in a T shirt, and it's 65, 70 degrees out. [01:08:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:58] Speaker B: That is sick as. You can't beat that. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker B: So how many other places can you go and do that? [01:09:05] Speaker C: San Diego. [01:09:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna say, the only problem with San Diego is then you don't have any money, and you're living with six people because you can't afford rent. [01:09:13] Speaker C: Right. [01:09:13] Speaker B: That's the other thing. I'm like, if I want to triple my rent, I'll move to San Diego. And it is. San Diego's super nice. [01:09:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:21] Speaker B: It does have decent comedy as well out there. [01:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:09:27] Speaker C: I heard the comedy scenes gotten a lot better. [01:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah. They've got the La Jolla comedy Store, and they've got, like, American funny factory or some downtown, and they have the. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Comedy club a little bit too down, like, a little bit outside of downtown. So when I went out there, I went out there for a festival a couple years back and performed at some places, and I enjoyed it a lot. It was really good. So I like, I need to get. [01:09:49] Speaker C: You on Comedy Works, bro, so we can all come see you, bro. [01:09:52] Speaker B: I'm trying. Comedy Works. They're really hard about getting, like. Unless I'm, like, headlining there, getting, like, comics that aren't in town. It takes a while. But next time I'm planning to go to Denver, I'm gonna reach out to comedy Works because I guess it takes, like, six weeks or something like that. [01:10:06] Speaker C: Yeah. But we'll show up. We'll bring everybody, dude. Works is actually one of the best. [01:10:13] Speaker B: It's a great room. I've watched a bunch of comics that, like, I've done Comedy Works, and I'm like, I know you. That's the funniest thing about comedy is that, like, being funny is like, 20 of the battle. It's like, who. You know, you're like, followers and how, like, you can sell tickets because that's life. That's everything. [01:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that's everything, bro. [01:10:34] Speaker B: That's. That's where we're at now, which. And that's why you see people doing the clipping thing and selling out and doing the hustle thing. Like, there was this girl in Austin comedy, she used to date this black guy, and she was, like, a regular comic, like, doing her thing. And then at some point, she just decided if she just starts dropping n bombs on stage, she can find an audience. And now she just makes jokes about black people. And now she has a big following of people. So. [01:11:00] Speaker A: Well, I'm like, It's a shitty feedback loop. That's the problem. [01:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, what's up? [01:11:08] Speaker A: I was gonna say that's a problem with anything viral. Like, if you work at something and then like the most, you know, I don't know, thoughtless, pointless thing that you have goes viral, then you think that that's what's going to work. And it does work. And then you double down on a triple down on it. Next thing you know, you're just. You're in that world when you're changing. [01:11:25] Speaker C: Who you want to be. [01:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. [01:11:28] Speaker C: You're just trying to be. You're not being authentic. Right. You're just trying to get. Yeah. [01:11:33] Speaker B: I'm saying, man, one of these days I'm like, shoot, I might just sell out. Just go straight Candace Owens on them and just be like, hell yeah, them. Go Trump. And then just have my own audience. It's like, I could do that because it's easy. Like, if you're a black dude talking about black people, I could sell out and do that and be didn't get way more followers and attention that way. But it's at the same time not what I'm trying to do. Like, that's not going to be fun for me. Like, you can sell out for however long. Yeah. And a lot. I've seen it happen a bunch and I'm just like, nah, if I have to do that, I'd rather quit comedy. [01:12:08] Speaker C: What's one thing, dear? I've. I've known you for a long time that you've, You've always just done you, man, and you have just not given a. About anyone else. And you're like, I'm just doing me and I'm living my best life. And your mindset and your attitude has always been the same. And dude, I think that's why we're. We're homies, man. It's just, it's really fun to see you live that lifestyle. [01:12:33] Speaker B: I mean, for me, it's like you kind of figure out, I guess you find out what's important in your life over time. Because, like, I remember when I first graduated college, I was working corporate and I was making way more money. And then I was like, doing all these things. But it's like you do all that and then you're miserable. Like, you're miserable and there's. And, And I've just found that there's. There, there's a level for like the price I'm willing to pay for peace of mind. And for me, it. There's the price for someone to pay me to take away my peace of mind and work would just. Yeah, is high. Is extremely high. And so I'd rather have that peace of mind enjoy in my life than do some that makes me money. But I'm miserable, so that's always kind of been where I stood on that thing. It's like, if I'm living this way and I'm happy, cool, because you can have all the money in the world, but it's not going to make you happy. Like, it's not going to find you joy in your life. It's not going to make you closer in your relationships or your family or friendships or whatever you're looking for. And so I think it's always just kind of been a journey to kind of figure out what that process looked like for me and doing those things, but doing them my way without feeling like I was compromising that aspect of my life. And that's always kind of been an intricate balance. And it definitely goes in waves. There's been times where I wasn't as much and this. And I was doing this and going like this and so on and so forth. But I think I'm in a really good place. But one thing I've always tried to be is authentically myself and not feel like I was doing things for other people or because other people thought that that's what I should do or anything like that. And I found that keeping that in mind with everything I do has definitely been beneficial for me. So why change that? [01:14:24] Speaker C: Love it, dude. Love that. [01:14:26] Speaker B: Yeah. What about you guys? What are you up to nowadays, Quinn? Like, besides the podcast, what are you doing with this? Like, what is the this? [01:14:34] Speaker A: I mean, you just kind of spoke to it, bro. Like, I was living in San Diego. I had a really good job. I was driving a nice car. I was living the dream, so to speak. You know what I mean? But I was working for a company I didn't give a about. I didn't care about what I was selling. I didn't care about their mission. I didn't. I woke up every day kissing some. Yeah, I didn't give a. I was kissing somebody's ass. I was taking orders. And that's just to your point. Like, that's authentically not who I am. Like, I just can't do that. And so I just. I wasn't happy. So I've always kind of wanted to spread my wings as an entrepreneur. And I was like, look, I don't have a wife. I don't have kids. Like, if I'm gonna do something. I gotta do it now because there is gonna, you know, like, unfortunately, like Father Time comes for results for us all, for sure. You know what I mean? [01:15:22] Speaker B: And. [01:15:22] Speaker A: And so I'm like, all right, well, I'm just gonna send it. So I quit my job, bro. I'm back home in the parents house. You know, I'm literally in their basement right now. James and I. Yeah, yeah. And I'll tell you right now, man, like, it sounds shitty to say out loud, but I don't regret one day. I'm so much happier. I feel so much more free. I feel like this is what I should be doing. Like, the moment that I quit the job and I was making good money, bro. I was making really good money. [01:15:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:51] Speaker A: And when I quit, it was almost like the universe had come down and was like, you're doing the right thing. Like, you're doing what you were supposed to do. So we. We do the podcast. This is. It's an ever evolving entity, but, you know, it is what it is, bro. And then we have a supplement company that we're launching, which is Intent Fit. So we got that going. I just hired a marketing agency because I thought I knew how to market. I don't know how to market for diddly squat. [01:16:25] Speaker B: I want to put you in contact with one of my guys that actually started his own company out in the uk and he's actually planning on moving to the States, but he. [01:16:34] Speaker C: The uk. What's it. I wonder if it's the same people we just hired. [01:16:38] Speaker B: No, he. He does. He owns a company called. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Dad. [01:16:46] Speaker B: No, I'm trying to remember the name of this company. Hold on, I can look it up. [01:16:58] Speaker A: Real quick while you're pulling that up. Yeah, we're. I. That was kind of a reference to our ad agency that we just hired. It's called Days. Was it Days Ahead Digital. And their acronym is dad. So it's kind of like he goes, papa. [01:17:14] Speaker B: So funny. Primal Alchemy. That is his name. That's the name of the company name. Primal Alchemy. And if you find him on LinkedIn, his name, Christopher Story. That's his name. And it's. And his thing is a father of Primal Alchemy Ltd. He's just a character, but what does he do? [01:17:37] Speaker A: What is like, what is Primal Alchemy? [01:17:39] Speaker B: So Primal Alchemy is a supplement company. So he makes. [01:17:43] Speaker C: Oh, cool. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah, so he makes like. He makes like nootropics and other things. And like, he's the enemy. [01:17:51] Speaker A: He's the enemy, bro. He's the enemy. He's the enemy. We're coming for his bitch ass. We've got the number one Detroit screw. Primal Alchemy, dude. [01:18:06] Speaker B: That fool. Kill him. [01:18:08] Speaker A: It's on site, bro. It's on site with this guy, whoever the he is. [01:18:13] Speaker B: You don't want this smoke, bro. You want this. [01:18:19] Speaker A: No, that's dope, bro. [01:18:20] Speaker B: I'm totally kidding. That's funny. As you see him in the street. Hey, it's not Primal Alchemy. You gonna get him right now, hands on everybody. Yeah, no, there's that. So I do a lot of that, and then lately, I've just been making degenerate parlays on prize picks. [01:18:43] Speaker C: Dude, I. I made a one for a Turkey bowl or for the turkey games, man. I'm hoping it hits. I. I put five on the. I put five on the Broncos to win the super bowl in the, like, in September. $5 paid 155. And now it's like, five bucks, pay 70 or even down to 60. I'm like, the odds have cut, like, more than half. I'm like, bro, if we go. Let's. Let's go to the. [01:19:06] Speaker B: Let's go, man. [01:19:07] Speaker A: We're looking good, bro. It's good to be a Denver fan right now, bro. Being a Denver fan is the. The abs. Every time I open up my phone, I'm getting, like, new stats on how crazy the Avalanche are, obviously. Yo, yo, dude. They're, like, on a historic run. [01:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah. The money. Jokic is money. The Broncos are money. And then we just all pretend the Rockies don't exist. [01:19:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Did you see the. The guy from Moneyball, though, is coming over to the Rockies, I think. [01:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Good luck. [01:19:38] Speaker C: Like that. [01:19:39] Speaker B: I'm telling you, the problem with the Rockies is the ownership. [01:19:43] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Everyone knows it. [01:19:45] Speaker B: Like, if you look at any good sports teams, right? Like, it's all about the owners. There's no way the Cleveland Browns should have been this bad for this long if it wasn't for the owners, like. [01:19:55] Speaker A: And the Cowboys. The Cowboys, the same thing, bro. [01:19:58] Speaker B: Jerry Jones. [01:19:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:00] Speaker B: The problem with the Cowboys, and I've been saying this, and I will say this forever, is the Cowboys will not win until Jerry Jones is gone. Because for one reason, Jerry Jones was very successful early on. But with that success, the success went to Jimmy Johnson. Everyone was like, jimmy Johnson's a great coach. Drafted all these players. Barry Switzer came with those talent, kept it going. But after that, Jerry Jones was like, not only do I want the Cowboys to win, because Jerry Jones wants the Cowboys to Win. And he will do a lot to take it to win, but he wants the Cowboys to win with him being the face being him being the guy to win. And then it would be like, what a great job Jerry Jones did. So because of that, ever since then, he's hired these coaches that are all fucking jamokes and all this stuff, so he could be. He's like, yeah, if I get a bunch of these jabronis in here and then I. We win, it's on me. So now Jerry Jones doesn't want to win. He wants to win with Jerry Jones being the, like, the name associated with the winning. And that's the problem. You can't do that in an NFL where coaching matters, where your GM matters, where your player has a problem with the coach. The co. The player goes above the coach to the owner, and now your coach has zero authority. You've undermined your coach, and you can't win like that in a league where coaching is so important. And that's the problem with Jerry Jones. That's why the Cowboys won't win. [01:21:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:18] Speaker C: I will say, though, like, half that last game where I don't even know the name of the head coach, but he benched CD and Pickens because they were late for Kurt. [01:21:29] Speaker B: Series. [01:21:30] Speaker C: One series. But still do that to these superstars with the egos that they have. I mean, that. That does kind of send a little bit of a message, but I couldn't agree more, bro. I don't think it's ever going to change. I think also I heard this directly from a Dallas native and he's in. Cowboy fan, and he's just, like, owned it. He's like, dude, they just. The problem with our. Our team is like, everyone and our players just care about themselves. Yeah, it's such a. I play for the Cowboys and it's. It's like every NFL or every professional athlete has to have some sort of an ego. I mean, to make it to that level, you have to. But the difference between, you know, the Cowboys is like, dude, it's America's team, which it's not anymore. It's like, it's such a, you know, individual performance on their side. And I think, you know, the teams that set that aside and, you know, actually just want to play good team ball and do what's right by the team. Those are the ones that are successful, bro. Especially in football, like basketball, you can get away with it a little bit. [01:22:35] Speaker A: Kind of. Kind of. [01:22:37] Speaker C: But not really. Yeah, exactly. [01:22:39] Speaker B: I feel like basketball more so because, like, football, if Everyone was, like, individually, just, like, doing their job. You could still be successful. But, like, that's true. That's true basketball. You need to play as a team because you can't. You literally can't win by yourself. But then the other thing, too, about the Cowboys is, like, when they go practice, like, players will be practicing or working out, and there's Jerry Jones with a gaggle of fans doing, like, a tourist in the middle of the workout, like, walking into the locker room. And so, like, you kind of take away the sacredness of, like, building that bond. And it's really hard for teams to gel when everyone feels like an individual, because you feel like you're a monkey in a zoo, whatever. You're fucking just trying to do your job. And so many players have talked about, like, just glad they got out of Dallas because it's like a zoo. You're in the weight room and fans are just watching you work out. And it's like, what the fuck are we doing? [01:23:31] Speaker C: Like, well, I'm a big fan of. I'm still a fan of Dion, but I think that's the problem with Dion sometimes, with having the media too much involved in. In the program. I think. Good. [01:23:42] Speaker A: He's just a trash coach. What are you talking about? That dude sucks at coaching. I'm sorry. [01:23:47] Speaker B: I'll tell you, the problem with Dion is that he's at a trash university. [01:23:51] Speaker C: And. [01:23:51] Speaker B: See you. [01:23:53] Speaker A: That's true. [01:23:54] Speaker B: Colorado State. Go Rams. Forever. Focal. Baby. [01:23:58] Speaker A: I forgot about that. Yeah, see you. No, I'm just kidding. No, I went to Metro State. [01:24:08] Speaker C: Front Range. Front Range. North Glenn. North. [01:24:15] Speaker B: I was speaking of the Glenn this weekend. Yeah, Knutson hit me up. [01:24:19] Speaker C: I saw that. [01:24:20] Speaker B: And then game back. I was about to go. Canussen. Still my boy. I know you and Knutson were never friends. [01:24:26] Speaker A: No, it's on site with canoes and. Bro, if me and James see canoes in public, it's on site, bro. Let it be known. I'm saying it public. [01:24:36] Speaker C: No, I. I hung out with Sal the other day, and he told. He sent that to me and stuff like that. But it's the day after. We have the Turkey bowl tomorrow. [01:24:44] Speaker B: Oh, is Sal going? [01:24:46] Speaker C: No, Sal's. We're playing football tomorrow, so there's no there. There's no way I'm playing football and then basketball the next day. There's zero chance. [01:24:56] Speaker A: Oh, bro, you should show up and just. Fuck. Is Canusa going to be there? I don't know the backstory. What's the back? [01:25:00] Speaker C: It's an alumni game. [01:25:01] Speaker A: It's like, you gotta go, dude. Turkey. I'll go and I'll be your biggest fan and you just break his ankles. Dude, this is revenge. This is your revenge game. [01:25:11] Speaker C: When I heard about it, I really like, truthfully, I was like, dude, if it was any other time, I 100% sure, because I'm. I'm. I could ball out. But I'm like, dude, there's no way. There's no way I will say. [01:25:23] Speaker B: When he asked if I still talk to anyone, I said, julian. And he's like, oh, can you send that to him? And then I sent James Gates and then he pretended like he did not hear that song. [01:25:37] Speaker C: Yeah, he knows I ain't about to show up, bro. [01:25:40] Speaker B: He never said send that to James Gates, bro. I think, in fact, he was like, if you do anything, don't send this to James G. [01:25:51] Speaker C: Hey, gladly, bro. That's fine. [01:25:55] Speaker B: On site. So funny. Harshman's. Harshman's gonna be there. Do you still talk to Harshman? [01:26:00] Speaker C: Dude? I ran into him on the light rail last summer, actually. Just randomly just saw him and he was with his whole fam and whole gang. [01:26:09] Speaker B: 12 kids now. [01:26:10] Speaker C: Yeah, he had like, he had like three kids. And I. I don't know who else was with him, but it was a whole gang and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. [01:26:20] Speaker B: Oh, man. John Harshman. Sometimes I'm like, I wonder if he's miserable or happy because last time I checked, it was a couple years ago and him and Chick have been the kids. And I was like, man, I know that nigga's not happy, but he didn't. [01:26:33] Speaker C: Look like he was super excited to talk to me or anything like that. I think I just caught him. But I will get like, just to give him the benefit of doubt. When you're like, you're being in dad mode and you got. You're trying to do all that stuff. Like, it's just hard, bro. [01:26:46] Speaker B: Like, yeah, it is hard, man. [01:26:48] Speaker C: It is hard. Like, so I totally get it. He's probably on alert. He was trying to. And I totally respect that. You know what I mean? [01:26:55] Speaker B: I mean, like, having. [01:26:57] Speaker C: I. I love Harsh, bro. I've. I've had a lot of good times with Harsh, bro. [01:27:01] Speaker A: I. [01:27:01] Speaker B: With Harsh. I love the Harsh, man. That's my guy. But like, just having kids, like, you become like a full time hostage negotiator, you know those things, Those are terrorists. They are. Yeah, those are really terrorists. That's why I can't have kids, because I'm a true patriot. I don't Negotiate with terrorists, you know, bro, I'm. [01:27:20] Speaker A: I'm. I'm an uncle. And I'll tell you right now, man, I'm. I'm a part of the terrorist gang, and I love it, dude. [01:27:25] Speaker B: That's the best part. I'm on the side of the terrorists. I'm like, with. Terrorize the. Out of the family, and then I'll leave them. I'm like, oh, that's your problem. And then I'm out. [01:27:36] Speaker A: Yep. [01:27:37] Speaker B: No, but now James is a faja. How's that been going? How's faja, James? [01:27:42] Speaker C: It's been. It's been amazing, man. It really has. [01:27:47] Speaker B: How old's your. [01:27:47] Speaker C: How old is a year and a half? [01:27:50] Speaker B: Year and a half. Already? [01:27:51] Speaker A: Almost. [01:27:52] Speaker C: Almost. [01:27:52] Speaker A: Almost. [01:27:53] Speaker B: I felt like that was born yesterday, bro. [01:27:55] Speaker C: I know, dude. Trust me. Trust me. [01:27:58] Speaker B: I remember. It feels like two weeks ago. James was like, yo, we're having a baby now. He's like, yeah, that's only a year and a half. I'm like, what? [01:28:04] Speaker C: Dude, I went to the wreck to sign him up for activities today. Like, that's where we're at. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Activities? What activities? You do a year and a half, dude. [01:28:13] Speaker C: You could do all kinds of stuff, like gymnastics, swimming, like, fitness stuff, little paint. Paint stuff. So. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy. [01:28:24] Speaker B: Doing too much. My African parents were like, what is these sheets? Barely walk cities us down. Give him a boat, bro. [01:28:32] Speaker A: He's. He's almost as tall as me, dude. It's wild. [01:28:38] Speaker C: Yeah, we have pictures of him holding Quinn. [01:28:41] Speaker A: Yeah, he picks me up, dog. [01:28:44] Speaker C: Yeah. The Lion King. [01:28:48] Speaker B: Put me down. [01:28:48] Speaker A: Put me down. [01:28:50] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Beating his ass, Quin. Send a message. [01:28:56] Speaker A: I got it, dude. I have to at some point, but. [01:28:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:59] Speaker B: Lay hands on you. Yeah. That's crazy, man. That's cool, though. [01:29:03] Speaker C: No, it's great, bro. [01:29:04] Speaker B: It's. [01:29:05] Speaker C: It's. It 100%. Like. Like all the other homies, you know, try to tell me, and it's like, you don't know till you know. And I used to take certain things for granted and didn't realize how hard it was going to be. And then you, like, really, you. You learn real quick. Like, it's just. It's a different animal, so. But it's the best. [01:29:25] Speaker B: So do you think the. The being a father itself is the challenging part or the navigating the things like your relationship with your wife and your friends and your job while being a father is. [01:29:39] Speaker C: What makes 100? 100? Like, because I think just naturally being a dad is. I would say that's like more of the. I wouldn't say easy part, but that's like. That's the fun part, right? Is like, dude, I've always wanted to be a dad, but then you, like, realize, like, how do I be, you know, present in this time? How do I show up at work? How do I show up for myself? How do I show up for my family? How do I do juggle all of this? And then also you realize that, like. Like, you care so much, and you're like, am I. I want to just do all the right things? And am I making the right decisions? And you're just. I never thought I would worry so much. Like, that's what's crazy. It's like, you just worry. You just worry so much, and you're. It just never. It's never ending. [01:30:27] Speaker B: That's crazy because my parents didn't seem to worry about. We are not going to bail you out. You are number seven. [01:30:36] Speaker C: I'm sure it'll change, like, as he gets older and. And, like, he can talk more and, like, you can understand and all that. But I just. I think before. And you get. You just get used to it, like, even just now, it's. So you learn a routine. It's the routine. [01:30:51] Speaker B: Is he, like. Does he, like, talking, like, full sentences and stuff? [01:30:55] Speaker A: No, just. [01:30:56] Speaker C: Just words. Just words. Yeah. [01:30:58] Speaker B: It's. So that's, like, the crazy part, too, about, like, kids learning how to, like, talk and stuff like that. Because, like, one of my friends, their kid didn't start talking, like, full sentences till they were like, three or four, right? But then, like, my nephew by, like, a year, he was using full sentences, right? Like, it just like, he was. I remember he was a year and a half years old, and he was trying to carry his bouncy trampoline up the stairs. And then he looks at me and he goes, phew, this is hard. And I was like. And I was able to, like, have little conversations with him, but it's like, every kid is so different in their growth process, and that's so, like, interesting to me. [01:31:39] Speaker A: Well. What? He can't speak yet? But he is so athletic, dude. He is such a. He's your baby, James. [01:31:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:45] Speaker A: Like, 100, bro. [01:31:47] Speaker B: It's wild words to be a baller, so that's worth more game, you know? Let your game do the talking. [01:31:54] Speaker C: Yeah, no, he's. I'm like. He's obsessed with. I would say everything, but, like, golf is definitely his jam right now, and soccer and. [01:32:03] Speaker B: Yeah, good. [01:32:04] Speaker C: Those are the best notes. [01:32:05] Speaker B: Give him A tennis racket. You know that? [01:32:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm giving him everything, bro. I want him in everything. I'm just gymnastics all of it, bro. [01:32:12] Speaker B: Don't let the Cooper flags and the Luca donches fool you. The NBA is not the thing for everybody, you know. [01:32:18] Speaker C: Oh, dude, he's gonna be. He'll be five, nine, probably. [01:32:22] Speaker A: No, no, I want him maybe a behemoth. I want him to be Viking status, bro. [01:32:27] Speaker C: If he gets you, he gets my wife. If he gets my wife's side, like, all her brothers are big boys, so they're all Iowa boys, so it's like, if he gets that side, which he's already, like, stocky. [01:32:39] Speaker A: I was gonna say, he's got a belly on him, bro. He got a little belly on him, dude. [01:32:43] Speaker C: Yeah, dude. [01:32:44] Speaker B: So, yeah, he's an offensive lineman. [01:32:47] Speaker C: Yeah, dude, that's fine with me, bro. [01:32:51] Speaker A: Yeah, give him. [01:32:51] Speaker B: Make him a left handed reliever in baseball. There's like 12 of them in the whole league. That dude have a job forever, dude. [01:32:58] Speaker C: That's facts. Yeah, I want him to be on the tour, bro. [01:33:00] Speaker B: Bro, give him the golf club, bro. [01:33:03] Speaker C: Yep. [01:33:04] Speaker A: You should see him with the club. It's. It's hilarious, bro. He's like, dialed in, focused, and then just. He's a stud, dude. [01:33:15] Speaker B: Can he hit it? Oh, yeah. Oh, he's smashing it. [01:33:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:33:19] Speaker B: That makes one of us, boy. Michael. [01:33:23] Speaker C: Are you still playing? [01:33:24] Speaker B: I. I haven't. I haven't hit balls in a minute. I've been traveling so much and. Yeah, and it was like, summers in Austin are crazy because now that summer's over, this winter, I'll probably hit more balls. But I kind of like it when I, like, play for a while and then I don't play again. And then I come back and it's like my swing feels so much more natural. [01:33:43] Speaker C: Yep. [01:33:44] Speaker B: And my swing has gotten so much better, so I probably should start playing more because sometimes I'll be like, hitting on the range. I'm like, boy, I'm good. And then I'll go hit. [01:33:52] Speaker C: Dude, you are, bro. I'll never forget that time you. We, like, were parked at that gas station. Didn't I have a flat tire? [01:33:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we were, like, waiting for something to happen at the gas station. [01:34:01] Speaker C: Q, have you heard this story? [01:34:02] Speaker A: No, No. [01:34:03] Speaker C: I. I'm gonna share this story. And I. I got a jet here shortly, but I. I think Ben was already with me, and we're. We're driving and I get a flat tire and I got. Already got my clubs in the back and we're literally on, like, the side of a busy Santa Fe. So a busy area. [01:34:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:20] Speaker C: There's a golf course on the other side of the road. This dude whips out my clubs, puts, starts putting balls in the grass on the sidewalk, and starts hitting over the cars, just in broad daylight, not giving a fuck and just smashing. [01:34:37] Speaker A: You're not a golfer. You're not a golfer. [01:34:41] Speaker B: I'm not a golfer, but with a pitching wedge in my hand, I'm nice. [01:34:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:34:47] Speaker B: As the clubs go down, I get worse. [01:34:51] Speaker A: That's all. [01:34:52] Speaker C: There was just no. There was no holding back. There was. He didn't even question it. And I just think about it now, and looking back, I'm like, bro, that is so wild. I would never allow that to happen now. [01:35:06] Speaker B: It was like, I picked up a pitching wedge. I'm like, if the club is close to a pitching wedge, I'm muddy because for some reason. Because when I was younger, my friend Josh and Jesse, the Hardmans, I Don't you remember Jesse? Yeah. Yeah. So me and his brother Josh, we used to go play par threes all the time. But with the par three, you're only using, like, a pitching wedge. So I just use a pitching wedge and a putter. So with a pitching wedge and a putter in my hands, I am a decent golfer. But if you put a driver in my hands, bro, I'd probably. I could probably hit a driver shorter than I hit the pitching wedge. Like, I'm terrible as a driver, bro. I'll drive all 25 yards, and then I'll wedget 115. [01:35:46] Speaker A: Next time you come to Denver, bro, hit us up and we'll do it again. [01:35:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, man. Of course. Next time I'm done. Of course I'm hitting you guys. [01:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah, always. [01:35:52] Speaker C: Yeah, no brainer. [01:35:54] Speaker A: All right, cool. Well, dude, bimbo, we appreciate you coming on, dog. Like, seriously, man. Like, oh, I've been doing these, like, serious podcasts with these people. I had, like, a neuroscientist on, and then we had this financial guru come on and shout out to those people for coming and. And, you know, lending their knowledge. But I can tell you right now, I hated every minute of those conversations. And this was. This was night and day difference, man. So I had a lot of fun, brother. I appreciate you, dude. [01:36:18] Speaker B: Quinn, just remember, if Theo Vaughn can talk to anyone, you can talk to him. The ain't the smartest dude in the world. Just being like, really, bro? That's crazy, man. [01:36:31] Speaker A: Well, shout out to Theo. I like Theo Body. [01:36:33] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. So if he could do it. Your money, bro. Don't sweat that. [01:36:36] Speaker A: I appreciate you, brother. [01:36:37] Speaker B: But, yes, thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Say hello to Tom and Lynn for me. Of my love. James said hello. I appreciate both of y'. [01:36:47] Speaker C: All. [01:36:47] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [01:36:48] Speaker C: We love you, man. I can't wait to see you, dude. [01:36:50] Speaker B: Hey, I will holler y' all next time I'm in town, man. Love you, fellas. [01:36:54] Speaker A: 100, and then I'm gonna clip this up, and I'm gonna send you some clips, bro. [01:36:57] Speaker B: Hey, bro, let me know. Clip it up, post it up. I'm always gay. [01:37:01] Speaker A: All right, bro. [01:37:02] Speaker C: Hey, happy Thanksgiving, bro. [01:37:03] Speaker B: Love you, man. Thanksgiving, y'. All. See you guys. [01:37:05] Speaker C: All right. [01:37:05] Speaker A: Peace. [01:37:06] Speaker C: See you.